tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post2807312056475943014..comments2024-03-27T02:15:22.010-07:00Comments on Crowley Party: mormon women, equality, and pants?Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)http://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-52221083444654147162013-01-05T22:23:31.861-08:002013-01-05T22:23:31.861-08:00can i just say thank you!!! seriousy sad day when ...can i just say thank you!!! seriousy sad day when people try and make a silly little point like that! i honestly havent heard to much about that heard it once by my sister (and we live in the rexburg bubble) but any who your thoughts were ours exactly! lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212670832379423530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-65786449923267044362012-12-21T13:08:17.766-08:002012-12-21T13:08:17.766-08:00This was such a great comment Jessi! I feel the sa...This was such a great comment Jessi! I feel the same way about understanding my divinity of being a woman through the Church, and it makes me sad to think there are women who don't feel that at Church. Sometimes I wonder how much of it is their insecurities, or letting other people's judgements get to them? I am at a loss. If you feel and believe the Church is true, then it shouldn't matter if the girl a couple rows infront of you gives you the side eye that your wearing a nice pants suit to Church that Sunday. People need to focus on their testimonies and not everything else going on.Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-77701253868289248002012-12-20T12:56:29.996-08:002012-12-20T12:56:29.996-08:00Alycia!
I am so grateful you were brave enough to...Alycia!<br /><br />I am so grateful you were brave enough to address this topic. I have this problem where I try to see the opposite side of my own opinion so strongly that it just paralyzes me. I am so grateful to you for reinforcing my feelings on this movement. It is frustrating that the Church as a whole is getting sucked into this. I don't think the women who are promoting it realize what a disservice they are doing to the Church. The Church has NEVER been a church of women oppression, and these women are sending out the message that it is. I personally have no idea where I could feel more empowered as a woman than in the Church. I don't think there is an organization more devoted to honoring the divinity of women than the Church. I am so grateful for the understanding that I have of Gospel truths, and for how liberated I feel because of them. I feel bad that the women of this movement don't have a sound understanding of what the Gospel provides in and of itself, because they wouldn't feel the need to do this if they did. It also makes me wonder about the kind of men in their lives. I just know that there is no better place to be a woman than in the Church. I'm just so grateful that I understand that!Jessihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02151215998565646954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-66249066737158262792012-12-19T09:29:10.261-08:002012-12-19T09:29:10.261-08:00Hollie, I grew up in San Diego! I also LOVE the Sa...Hollie, I grew up in San Diego! I also LOVE the San Diego Temple, I got married there! Loved this comment, you can ask me anything you want about Mormonism! haha it can seem like a hard religion to "get" hahaAlycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-80883379978322931182012-12-19T09:09:45.082-08:002012-12-19T09:09:45.082-08:00So I'm not Mormon. And I've had very few i...So I'm not Mormon. And I've had very few interactions with Mormons. All I've ever heard (even though I live in San Diego with a BEAUTIFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Mormon temple) are stereotypes about Mormons and stereotypes about Utah. Now, I'm open minded enough to realize not all Mormons are like this. In fact, probably a lot of them are not like the typical stereotypes. Blogging has given me a fondness for Mormons. Mormons have THE BEST blogs! There are so many things I love about Mormons. Thanks for writing this post, I found it really insightful. Hollie Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02880702832293455031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-41006419939389888602012-12-18T07:05:33.076-08:002012-12-18T07:05:33.076-08:00I'm not Mormon and I understand/agree complete...I'm not Mormon and I understand/agree completely.wfayewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375306226592562128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-4450022391137747862012-12-17T20:16:55.871-08:002012-12-17T20:16:55.871-08:00thank you! this was exactly what i thought about t...thank you! this was exactly what i thought about this whole thing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13500738349627235602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-70306270357347672192012-12-17T17:12:00.398-08:002012-12-17T17:12:00.398-08:00oh so this is what the whole pants hulabaloo is al...oh so this is what the whole pants hulabaloo is all about. i heard someone mention it but i was clueless so what they were talking about. yeah i think its pretty rediculous that women would think wearing pants would make a difference. the ward i am in people wear their best, it may be jeans and a t-shirt, but it is their best and we love them and fellowship everyone the same. church is for worship, not a political stunt. so sad to see that some women don't feel equal. i have never felt unequal in the church and i would never question Gods plan for things.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10564479705071890186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-50839403465492371622012-12-16T20:48:43.652-08:002012-12-16T20:48:43.652-08:00Amen sister! Amen sister! Alexis Kayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13078793693594634917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-66643542899032275642012-12-16T12:40:02.412-08:002012-12-16T12:40:02.412-08:00I was just discussing my opinion on why I didn'...I was just discussing my opinion on why I didn't think this event was appropriate, or how it didn't really make sense if they were wanting to talk about equality in the Church. Then I went on to write about my experiences in my own family and being raised in the Mormon religion and my view points on my own personal idea of equality.<br /><br />I think if they have received a "backlash" it was because people didn't find Church an appropriate place to make a statement. It doesn't mean people don't want to help or understand their concerns. My explaining my view point on how I was raised does not mean I am trivializing their feelings and experiences that were evidently different then mine. In fact, I said if they want to make a point, they should, and have every right too, but that I didn't think Church was a good place to do it. I think it would be ill received to do it at Church, and apparently it was.<br /><br />Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-631597966103016632012-12-16T11:26:46.062-08:002012-12-16T11:26:46.062-08:00I agree completely that what someone wears to chur...I agree completely that what someone wears to church shouldn't be a big deal. But, judging by the Mormon backlash from this event, it is still a big deal for a lot of people, as baffling as that seems. The organizers of the event received plenty of negative feedback over an event that should have been a non-issue. Obviously, you can't judge the whole church based on the actions of a few internet trolls but I do think the reaction to this event is indicative of a culture in which many women feel like they don't belong at church. And trivializing those women's feelings and motivations because their story doesn't match your own experience just pushes them away more. Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06406692713975194152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-63551681478306907722012-12-16T10:56:56.992-08:002012-12-16T10:56:56.992-08:00Not Mormon, but very well written!Not Mormon, but very well written!Bethany Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11365631300039840059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-62719770317988683762012-12-16T10:25:00.084-08:002012-12-16T10:25:00.084-08:00Get it girl!
You are so good at explaining certai...Get it girl!<br /><br />You are so good at explaining certain topics, I hope more people read this and really take your opinion to heart!<br /><br />Loveyou!Diana Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922659789868004111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-67546169514012281842012-12-16T10:18:00.035-08:002012-12-16T10:18:00.035-08:00Agreed Jennifer, I think this idea translates itse...Agreed Jennifer, I think this idea translates itself well among all religions!Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-83738575448824264112012-12-16T10:17:00.451-08:002012-12-16T10:17:00.451-08:00That sad thing is, that we have always been "...That sad thing is, that we have always been "open-minded" and we shouldn't have to do a demonstration to get that point across. I honestly feel bad that there are women who feel this way and need to do something like this to make themselves feel better or show some kind of community, I wish they just had the community in their own ward. Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-24712247948808954542012-12-16T10:13:41.787-08:002012-12-16T10:13:41.787-08:00Rikki, It is interesting how many Mormon bloggers ...Rikki, It is interesting how many Mormon bloggers there are huh?! &yes, I feel like it is a very misunderstood religion, but I am happy you feel you are getting a better more realistic picture of the religion. Rebekah gave you a great site if you are interested, I also have it linked on my nav bar, as I am sure you are used to seeing it on a lot of different mormon's blog haha. If you ever have any questions or clarification, just ask me!Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-52527010756185114842012-12-16T10:13:33.746-08:002012-12-16T10:13:33.746-08:00I'm not Mormon, but I am "religious"...I'm not Mormon, but I am "religious" from a different religion, and I couldn't agree more. You can take out the word Mormon and replace it with any religion, and take out the word church and replace it with any other house of worship, and this still reigns true. Thanks for the insightful post!Jennifer Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07623065608039283070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-84349495343859057782012-12-16T10:09:28.435-08:002012-12-16T10:09:28.435-08:00I feel you! People need to just be happy people ar...I feel you! People need to just be happy people are at Church!Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-16573714146041988012012-12-16T10:06:37.752-08:002012-12-16T10:06:37.752-08:00thanks Brandi, and yes, it never seems to be about...thanks Brandi, and yes, it never seems to be about the "real" issue someone has now is it!Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-24784743677512609282012-12-16T10:05:10.048-08:002012-12-16T10:05:10.048-08:00I LOVE THAT! A humanist :) I think I will start ca...I LOVE THAT! A humanist :) I think I will start calling myself that!Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-530723215236211952012-12-16T10:04:16.276-08:002012-12-16T10:04:16.276-08:00I am all for people coming to Church, in whatever ...I am all for people coming to Church, in whatever it is they want to wear! I love your saying to them :) Alycia Grayce (Crowley Party)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16438358678220412938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-37432690873256667572012-12-15T22:48:51.903-08:002012-12-15T22:48:51.903-08:00I think this was a fabulously written post- I comp...I think this was a fabulously written post- I completely agree with what you said. I have never felt like women are treated unequally in the church and I didn't understand what wearing pants was going to do to help those who did feel unfairly treated. Thank you so much for your thoughts on this. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17056821909263822239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-70195059925783504252012-12-15T14:32:27.972-08:002012-12-15T14:32:27.972-08:00Whoa! Thanks for posting about this. I've shar...Whoa! Thanks for posting about this. I've shared it with friends on facebook and have found out what others think about it. It's very interesting to hear others opinions on this matter. While I understand the point that Mormon feminist want to make by wearing pants to church tomorrow, I see this as more of a protest, and I think it would be irreverent to protest on the sabbath, on a day of worship. But others may see this as an opportunity to show others, especially converts, of our "open-mindedness" (in a sense). We need to remember that our church buildings are full of people from different backgrounds and respect that. Beverly Houpthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01255868227006243894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-18857090025604749812012-12-15T08:10:32.518-08:002012-12-15T08:10:32.518-08:00Hi Rikki,
If you want to learn more about mormon...Hi Rikki, <br /><br />If you want to learn more about mormons and their beliefs I really recommend mormon.org. I'm a mormon, and I've gone there looking for answers to things I didn't totally and understand and I found it really helpful. Thanks for giving mormons a chance :)<br /><br />RebekahRebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377738808110980749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-699693038908396892.post-53957310233072249812012-12-15T08:08:32.247-08:002012-12-15T08:08:32.247-08:00Thank you so much for your opinion. I agree with y...Thank you so much for your opinion. I agree with you completely. I get so frustrated with women, or anyone that feel like women are secondary to men in our church. I feel that women are so respected and honored in the church. <br /><br />I agree that church is a place of learning and worship and I am so glad to see that someone else agrees!Rebekahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11377738808110980749noreply@blogger.com